tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post367743863412909626..comments2023-04-14T07:44:43.860-07:00Comments on Drive East Midlands & Drivers' Union www.driversunion.co: The truth is offensive to some on the road. Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01728662150497028437noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-62689931096676630542014-05-02T06:24:42.209-07:002014-05-02T06:24:42.209-07:00Yes I remember them fondly but they were a gimmick...Yes I remember them fondly but they were a gimmick even then. Youngs sold beer all over London but their drays were only local and very costly to maintain too. Had Youngs had the choice drays or lorries,even then they would've chosen lorries.<br /><br />So if that is the nearest we can get as an example why we still have horses on the roads in 2014, a long discarded and obsolete advertising Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01728662150497028437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-3201466344808309392014-05-02T04:43:32.759-07:002014-05-02T04:43:32.759-07:00"Why are horses still being ridden or driven ..."Why are horses still being ridden or driven on UKs roads in 2014?' "<br />Until the brewery closed Young's still used Drays to deliver in and around Wandsworth. This wasn't as a sense of tradition and because it looked nice, it was because it was the most efficient and economical means of making local deliveries.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14354309500695242241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-74138283127665019012014-02-10T04:14:46.681-08:002014-02-10T04:14:46.681-08:00Generally I am talking about our society and espec...Generally I am talking about our society and especially where we have such a vociferous and challenging Cycle Lobby which seems to be unique in terms of style and is unlike the EU sedate upright, or our equivalent say in Oxford or Cambridge. But perhaps there actually isn't a society that would collapse without cyclists anyway because none were ever built on manpowered transport but would Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01728662150497028437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-68948931967577785792014-02-09T17:14:35.896-08:002014-02-09T17:14:35.896-08:00It's not like I'm saying that without read...It's not like I'm saying that without reading up 'Cyclecraft' you haven't a clue what you are talking about. I just mean that, when you want to hold cyclists to account for breaking the rules, 'Cyclecraft' would be a really good source book to help you do that. <br /><br />On the other thing, sorry -looks like I misunderstood you. When you said "As in your postAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01784134931109896087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-76336132876095561082014-02-08T16:40:23.574-08:002014-02-08T16:40:23.574-08:00You have not read my reply. It is saddling me with...You have not read my reply. It is saddling me with remarks I haven't made, as you have, on which most of the rage and insult directed at me is based that wasn't suggesting you were in rage.<br /><br />I am not a cycling expert although I have been cycling for about sixty seven years, much of it London commuting but I wasn't ever a professional. I really have no interest in Cycle CraftAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01728662150497028437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-61854843412476999972014-02-08T10:37:46.763-08:002014-02-08T10:37:46.763-08:00That's a bit unfair, isn't it? Nothing I ...That's a bit unfair, isn't it? Nothing I wrote that comes over as 'rage', is there? <br /><br />I just wondered, given that 'cycling' has it's own heading on this website/blog thingy -and you have a lot to say about road safety and cycling- whether you had read the Department for Transport handbook on the matter?<br /><br />I'm pretty sure wondering about that Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01784134931109896087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-5672336157969540512014-02-06T03:52:38.883-08:002014-02-06T03:52:38.883-08:00Hi T. I use the terms Lycra & Spandex to save ...Hi T. I use the terms Lycra & Spandex to save a lot of time describing a type of cyclist. It isn't a criticism of their clothing and I really don't care what people wear. As I point out that there isn't much point having a powerful sports car or motor bike and not driving them accordingly. The same with cycling. Not much point in rigging one'self as a Bradley Wiggins then Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01728662150497028437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-36302206745538462242014-02-05T16:25:15.351-08:002014-02-05T16:25:15.351-08:00You do know, Keith, why UK cyclists are more likel...You do know, Keith, why UK cyclists are more likely to be wearing lycra that their continental cousins? Isn't it something to do with DfT guidance, and your own remarks, about cyclists having to cope with the roads as they are? As DfT approved book 'Cyclecraft' makes plain, the whole idea is they are supposed to be bleedin athletes, so as not to impede traffic. So, you are asking Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01784134931109896087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-73029829734462598132014-01-30T15:08:04.944-08:002014-01-30T15:08:04.944-08:00Well of course when humans mingle with essential m...Well of course when humans mingle with essential machines there will be death and injury but it's not banned like guns because it keeps all of us alive and we depend on it.<br /><br />You have sidetracked from the simple statement again. It's not <br />about individuals and what they do but road transport modes. Only walkiing and driving are needed by the community. I dont say ban Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01728662150497028437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-46275132089673624562014-01-30T13:07:38.549-08:002014-01-30T13:07:38.549-08:00sorry - was late when i was typing that. it's ...sorry - was late when i was typing that. it's not as important as this<br /><br />"Yes but drivers keep us all alive and healthy so they preserve far more than they kill and injure and they are essential to the community."<br /><br />Holy shit KP. You wonder why some cyclists respond badly/ aggressively to your points? You've basically just said that its ok for a driver to kill andy keetchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17506366773785181612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-65977656691435337352014-01-30T03:17:11.894-08:002014-01-30T03:17:11.894-08:00You cannot 'over simplify' a fact. You sec...You cannot 'over simplify' a fact. You second para is not clear. But all systems depend on motor transport, including private.<br /><br />No-one argues about the responsibility of car users and they are aware of their duty of care that's why road accidents and casualties are so low given the high mileage.<br /><br />The precedence and importance aspect isn't in response to there Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01728662150497028437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-38785306772770457082014-01-29T11:54:11.305-08:002014-01-29T11:54:11.305-08:00If your argument is - without any form of motorise...If your argument is - without any form of motorised transport, we all die - you are over simplifying the issue.<br /> <br />Community/ society can exist with our retired people and musicians, but if they need medical care I'm glad we have system that provides for them. <br /><br />No one is advocating the removal of cars. People are saying that car drivers have a duty of care. andy keetchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17506366773785181612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-76529839452611725592014-01-27T09:58:20.043-08:002014-01-27T09:58:20.043-08:00You repeat a myth. So what is lots of car journeys...You repeat a myth. So what is lots of car journeys are cycling distance? We cycle but that doesn't mean everyone else must. But journeys are about time/speed/load/distance/purpose No-one has analysed all this. They have just published a Ministry of Guesswork number. How do they know if the drivers' just picked up a bag of cement? <br /><br />Oh the obesity debate. It's more about bad Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01728662150497028437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-80005386972698674742014-01-27T09:35:01.092-08:002014-01-27T09:35:01.092-08:00You only have to look at the evidence to see the b...You only have to look at the evidence to see the benefits of cycling, Keith. The point is that most car journeys are short enough to be done by bicycle. Once cyclists are given protection from the dangers of careless driving then the demand results in a large number of journeys being done by bicycle instead of motor car and the problems of traffic congestion are alleviated. Are you seriously Fifth Gearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08117352282616901745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-64503976955624524152014-01-27T09:10:07.087-08:002014-01-27T09:10:07.087-08:00But I don't agree there's benefits. It'...But I don't agree there's benefits. It's a myth. How can it benefit society to impede, delay and add liability on essential infrastructure? Don't tell me health. Just look at the casualty lists so there are safer ways of getting exercise. <br /><br />As a cyclist I want the money spent on NHS or Emergency Services or flood defences. <br /><br />As I say, either cycle or don't.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01728662150497028437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-945512265659033782014-01-27T08:58:11.572-08:002014-01-27T08:58:11.572-08:00Oh do read please. Most commuters come from way of...Oh do read please. Most commuters come from way off and yes drive to stations and most in the suburbs work in London but depend on cars. London couldn't operate without drivers but doesn't depend on cyclists.<br /><br />So you deny the simple statement at the head of this piece? If so yes you are very sad and possibly in denial. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01728662150497028437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-26990228084035539942014-01-27T05:32:06.837-08:002014-01-27T05:32:06.837-08:00Keith, Most people in London do not drive to the s...Keith, Most people in London do not drive to the station. There are not parking stations at tube stations and it is very limited at major train stations. People buy or rent their properties based on how close they are to local transport links, be that train stations, bus stops, tube stations or tram stops.<br /><br />I do not know of any one that drives their car to their local train station CycleGazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10174788893004017072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-23671932454390724742014-01-27T05:15:35.430-08:002014-01-27T05:15:35.430-08:00You are correct. No one is forcing anyone to cycle...You are correct. No one is forcing anyone to cycle. But why does that mean that those that do cycle, or would like to, should not be afforded a safer means of doing so when appropriate, given the huge benefits of cycling for society? You say you are happy to cycle as a 4th option but cycling infrastructure and cycle-friendly policies have resulted in very significant cycling levels in the Fifth Gearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08117352282616901745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-50958169119796592672014-01-27T04:14:15.785-08:002014-01-27T04:14:15.785-08:00Yes I am a cyclist but always knew my cycling was ...Yes I am a cyclist but always knew my cycling was a secondary option, actually 4th option to walking, driving, & motorcycling in that order. I can take or leave cycling as all cyclist do at some point in their lives. And I have never asked for or expected a cycling infrastructure as you call it. Roads developed over 1000s of years and if they're too dangerous, don't cycle. No one is Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01728662150497028437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-21724384366054196572014-01-27T03:53:38.804-08:002014-01-27T03:53:38.804-08:00I don't intend to start answering the answers ...I don't intend to start answering the answers to comments that missed the point anyway so I will be brief. Had you read the blog you would see I cycle.<br /><br />Address the simple statement, which I took the trouble to copy into the top so people wouldn't need to search for it.<br /><br />Of course some people cycle to work. But most can't, won't, don't want to and never Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01728662150497028437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-45495710694462935672014-01-26T12:13:11.499-08:002014-01-26T12:13:11.499-08:00Keith - I regularly cycle 12 miles each way to get...Keith - I regularly cycle 12 miles each way to get the train to get to work. In my office there are many cyclists who cycle further, for a period, I cycled 22m each way. Maybe your son could give it a try? The main station has acres devoted to car parking and about half a football pitch devoted to parking the same number of cycles.<br /><br />I guess like me you live must live in the country and RobbieChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11060043062115702615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-4834669654876852512014-01-26T11:32:19.306-08:002014-01-26T11:32:19.306-08:00You claim you are a cyclist, Keith, so you obvious...You claim you are a cyclist, Keith, so you obviously appreciate that the bicycle is the motorist's friend as it allows you to use a cleaner, quieter, cheaper, safer and more efficient and enjoyable form of transport when the circumstances allow and this reduces the huge problems of traffic congestion and has various health benefits. I assume you agree that better cycling infrastructure to Fifth Gearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08117352282616901745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-56175690215966068642014-01-26T10:40:04.552-08:002014-01-26T10:40:04.552-08:00Oh dear. I am now having to re-gurgitate something...Oh dear. I am now having to re-gurgitate something else explained already ad nauseam. Don't you think you depend on drivers? Of course you do. No drivers, no basics. No water, food, power, warmth, clothing, NHS, Emergency services. medicine, public and commercial transport. Don't you know that?<br /><br />Private transport? Oh so how are the connections made to public transport? You don&#Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01728662150497028437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4088283198857338737.post-51296401078103225832014-01-26T10:24:38.486-08:002014-01-26T10:24:38.486-08:00"The head cams are there specifically to catc..."The head cams are there specifically to catch drivers doing something wrong and to film any planned confrontation just for the camera." Oh come on Keith. People use cameras to cover their backs, in case something happens they have that footage to prove what really happened. Some people might purposefully look for confrontation *cough* You chasing down cyclists? *cough* but the majorityCycleGazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10174788893004017072noreply@blogger.com