It is exact evidence of who is aggressive to who but also demonstrates the rationale behind most speeding prosecution and speeding profit. That is explained here. But basically the authorities must pretend all 'speeding' is deliberate or careless to justify their policy of mass prosecution and the generation of large numbers of offenders at a site, rather than confess that when there are large numbers without attendant accidents, there is a fault. Clearly, as in this example of 6000 a year in a 30 zone, they're failing to achieve their objective of 30 MPH. Worse they are quite happy to allow it to continue instead of addressing the problem.
Below are the tweet exchanges with cyclists, that prove that there are people out there, many local politicians are keen cyclists by the way, who are behind the favoured prosecution of many thousands of perfectly safe drivers every year, and the profiteering from it.
They have no real interest in making speed limits work at all but are just bent on seeing drivers prosecuted and the Awareness firms lining their pockets from it.
@BogTrotter1 @DriverUnion @UKIP how do you feel about http://t.co/Rf2ZiSctNu nearly 6000 people doing over 36mph in a city centre 30mph zone
— Gareth Evans (@lardychap) April 15, 2015
@lardychap @BogTrotter1 @DriverUnion @UKIP In short, the limit isn't working & nor are the cameras are they!
— Driver Hatred (@Driver_Hatred) April 15, 2015
In a tweet I suggested better signage or even raise the limit at that section on the 85%tile basis if accidents are not ensuing.
@Driver_Hatred @BogTrotter1 @DriverUnion @UKIP it's a built up area, so 30mph. No it's not working but the answer isn't raise the limit
— Gareth Evans (@lardychap) April 15, 2015
@lardychap @Driver_Hatred @BogTrotter1 @DriverUnion That is like saying let's raise DD limit so nobody fails - completely stupid "logic".
— Simon Mason (@swldxer) April 15, 2015
@lardychap @Driver_Hatred @DriverUnion @UKIP Clearly then, if the object is 30 MPH, better warning & reminder signs will reduce speeding.
— Keith Peat (@BogTrotter1) April 16, 2015
@BogTrotter1 @Driver_Hatred @DriverUnion @UKIP The warning signs are streetlights less than 200 yards apart, thus defining a built up area
— Gareth Evans (@lardychap) April 16, 2015
@lardychap @UKIP No they're not reminders at all & are also found on motorways & other limits. Do you prefer the speeding then?
— Keith Peat (@BogTrotter1) April 16, 2015
@lardychap @UKIP You sound like the profiteers & driver haters. Not really interested in the limits but 1000s of prosecutions is a result!
— Keith Peat (@BogTrotter1) April 16, 2015
@BogTrotter1 @UKIP no Keith, I sound like a competent driver who knows that lights spaced 200 yards apart means built up area
— Gareth Evans (@lardychap) April 16, 2015
@lardychap @UKIP So but they don't always mean that at all & you measure lamp distances do you? What have you got against repeater signs?
— Keith Peat (@BogTrotter1) April 16, 2015
@BogTrotter1 @UKIP and I know that a built up area means 30mph unless otherwise signed. And I know what 30mph feels like
— Gareth Evans (@lardychap) April 16, 2015
@lardychap @UKIP So you think 6000 did it deliberately or not by error & that the priority is not to help them to get the speed right then?
— Keith Peat (@BogTrotter1) April 17, 2015
@lardychap @UKIP What you are is a classic blame the driver anti driver & really not interested in achieving less speeding at all!
— Keith Peat (@BogTrotter1) April 16, 2015
@lardychap @UKIP So you are against helping drivers to keep to the limits then?
— Keith Peat (@BogTrotter1) April 16, 2015
Now here enters another avid cyclist.
@BogTrotter1 It is barely conceivable that anyone could miss them, or could assume its above 30mph @lardychap @UKIP
— Cab Davidson (@gnomeicide) April 17, 2015
@BogTrotter1 the reason for this? Frequency of 20mph-30mph changeovers, its VERY clearly signposted. @lardychap @UKIP
— Cab Davidson (@gnomeicide) April 17, 2015
@BogTrotter1 NO ONE speeding in the centre of Cambridge above 30mph doesn't know the speed limit. No one. At all. Ever. @lardychap @UKIP
— Cab Davidson (@gnomeicide) April 17, 2015
@gnomeicide @lardychap @UKIP We are discussing a particular hi volume site. Frequent changes is bad limiting policy & this is the result.
— Keith Peat (@BogTrotter1) April 17, 2015
@gnomeicide @lardychap @UKIP It isn't a question of not 'knowing' it is a matter of falsely inducing a higher speed & not addressing it.
— Keith Peat (@BogTrotter1) April 17, 2015
@BogTrotter1 @UKIP Actually street lights ARE definitive. Section 82(1)(a) (of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 (RTRA 1984))
— Gareth Evans (@lardychap) April 17, 2015
@lardychap @UKIP No. That is purely a 30 MPH reg. But there are street lamps not on 30MPH routes too. So they're only an indication.
— Keith Peat (@BogTrotter1) April 17, 2015
@BogTrotter1 @lardychap @UKIP And if there are lights but no signs, that a restricted road. Definitive.
— John Stevenson (@johnstevenson_x) April 17, 2015
@johnstevenson_x @lardychap @UKIP I know the regulation. But lights are not just at 30 zones. So only signs define limits to drivers.
— Keith Peat (@BogTrotter1) April 17, 2015
@lardychap @johnstevenson_x @UKIP But there is also BUA in 40 limits & 50 limits too. So your only interested in blaming drivers aren't you!
— Keith Peat (@BogTrotter1) April 17, 2015
@lardychap @BogTrotter1 @UKIP Indeed. Remarkable lack of knowledge from a road law expert there.
— John Stevenson (@johnstevenson_x) April 17, 2015
@johnstevenson_x @lardychap @UKIP The lamps regulation isn't significant to drivers. Only signs are. Don't be silly in debate anti driver!
— Keith Peat (@BogTrotter1) April 17, 2015
@BogTrotter1 @lardychap @UKIP Expecting drivers to know the rules is silly is it? Right.
— John Stevenson (@johnstevenson_x) April 17, 2015
@johnstevenson_x @lardychap @UKIP Good driving isn't by reference to rules but mostly through the windscreen & response to circumstances.
— Keith Peat (@BogTrotter1) April 17, 2015
@johnstevenson_x @lardychap @UKIP So according to you, stick to the limit & do 60 round a 30 bend? Most driving is responding to road.
— Keith Peat (@BogTrotter1) April 17, 2015
@johnstevenson_x @lardychap @UKIP So according to you, stick to the limit & do 60 round a 30 bend? Most driving is responding to road.
— Keith Peat (@BogTrotter1) April 17, 2015
@BogTrotter1 @lardychap @UKIP unpredictable and therefore dangerous.
— John Stevenson (@johnstevenson_x) April 17, 2015
@johnstevenson_x @lardychap @UKIP But 'speeding' to exceed an arbitrary number on a pole causes nothing. You clearly can't comprehend that.
— Keith Peat (@BogTrotter1) April 17, 2015
@BogTrotter1 @lardychap @UKIP You can’t possibly be a good driver if you choose which rules to ignore and which to follow. Makes you …
— John Stevenson (@johnstevenson_x) April 17, 2015
@johnstevenson_x @lardychap @UKIP No-one is choosing rules but just suggesting how to get them applied well & not profiting from them.
— Keith Peat (@BogTrotter1) April 17, 2015
@BogTrotter1 @gnomeicide @UKIP In this case, ignorance of the immediate speed limit is no defence. Drive to the law
— Gareth Evans (@lardychap) April 17, 2015
@lardychap @gnomeicide @UKIP Who's disagreeing. But find out why it's happening & correct it. You want it to continue merrily it seems.
— Keith Peat (@BogTrotter1) April 17, 2015
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